tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19567381.post9076295370933204786..comments2024-02-05T04:09:09.848-05:00Comments on A Gift For Polydektes: More on photo-notarizing antiquities to prove ownershipEd Sniblehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17346392312959087285noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19567381.post-85218783559159743532008-07-19T11:19:00.000-04:002008-07-19T11:19:00.000-04:00Peter, as ACCG official if you someday feel a gove...Peter, as ACCG official if you someday feel a government mandate is inevitable please lobby to allow several competing registration schemes — this scheme can be done with strong privacy controls which is a real benefit.<BR/><BR/>My hope isn't to convince dealers. I want to persuade folks like the operators of VCoins.com and Tantalus.com who are in a position to implement this on behalf of the entire dealer and collector community. I wonder who makes the software many dealers use to print 2x2 labels? Perhaps a 2D barcode could be added to certify the 2x2s themselves.<BR/><BR/>The 1970 date is a problem. I have an idea that might allow another 1% of coins to re-acquire their pre-1970 provenance (more later) but it's hard in 2008 to figure out where everything was in 1970. S.R.M Mackenzie (<I>Going, Going, Gone</I>, p. 240) thinks we need a <B>new</B> mandated registry that will legitimize everything before the creation of the registry. If that idea gets off the ground the collector community will want the option of using a registry with strong privacy controls like this.<BR/><BR/>Mackenzie thinks that antiquities turning up after the new registry turns on shouldn't be "registerable". I think they should be "registerable" but in the category of "dubious; no provenance before X". In some countries the "dubious" might prevent <I>selling</I> the "dubiously registered" antiquity. A pre-X provenance might be discovered later and be added. Or perhaps the law might change and an X-dated registration which didn't have legal standing before suddenly becomes meaningful after X+fifty years.Ed Sniblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17346392312959087285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19567381.post-7776967561280917632008-07-19T09:54:00.000-04:002008-07-19T09:54:00.000-04:00Ed- Thanks for this and the other post. My point...Ed- Thanks for this and the other post. My point on a government blessing was predicated on my assumption that your idea might become the basis for a government mandate at some point or evidence that a coin was "legitimate" in the face of a future import restriction.<BR/><BR/>I agree with you that this idea should be promoted first within the hobby. This will also allow for some trial and error to take place before ultimate standards are agreed upon. <BR/><BR/>I did get a few emails from dealers. Most did not like the idea because they thought it would be too time consuming for their small businesses to accomplish and the effort would likely not satisfy members of the archaeological community who based on their rules of professional conduct seem to be stuck on a 1970 date.<BR/><BR/>I do think however that your idea does have merit. All it might take is one prominent dealer who agrees that it is a good idea to make it happen and then see if it takes off. <BR/><BR/>Best regards,<BR/><BR/>PeterCultural Property Observerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05924359202414555962noreply@blogger.com